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Devon Preston

February 11th, 2020

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Tattoo Artist Doreen Garner Breaks Down Racism in the Industry

The Brooklyn tattooer talks about her experience as a black artist

This Black History Month, we’re celebrating by recognizing some of our favorite black artists who produce exceptional tattoo work. One of these artists is Doreen Garner, who works out of Saved Tattoo in Brooklyn. We sat down with Garner to learn her thoughts on racial diversity, discrimination and representation in 2020’s tattoo industry. Take a look at our interview with Garner and to book an appointment check out her website.

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Today MLK day marks 1 year of me being at @savedtattoo !!!! Im so grateful and blessed to be apart of this powerhouse. Thank you so much @stephanietamez and @virginiaelwood for letting me join the team. And big big big thankyou to @tamarasantibanez and @andersonluna for being so encouraging, generous, inspirational and fearless. I really admire the ways each of you are fighting for change and ways that you advocate for black women especially in the tattoo industry. I wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the both of you and I’m forever thankful ❤️❤️❤️

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Jan 20, 2020 at 12:09pm PST

Has the industry’s treatment of race improved since you started tattooing?

When I first started tattooing in 2016, I was self-taught so I wasn’t really “in the industry.” I couldn’t tell what the state of it was until maybe a few years in. Since then, I feel that some but not much has changed. There are definitely more people becoming vocal about the lack of diversity in the industry and in shops. Social media has been a really great vehicle for exposing some of the more racist acts that happen and are performed by people within the tattoo industry. For example, successful white tattoo artists / tattoo shops desaturating images of black people to make them look like they’re of a different race or even more extreme, Oliver Peck putting on black face on multiple occasions.

On a more positive note, I believe connecting platforms like Instagram and accounts like @inkthediaspora run by Tann Parker has helped the community of black tattoo artists become stronger because we know who we all are, where we all are with a stronger sense of camaraderie, awareness and solidarity.

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➖ For @ainbaz . . #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Feb 10, 2020 at 5:36pm PST

You’ve mentioned the tattoo industry lacks racial diversity. Why do you think that is?

I think it’s a combination of white privilege, freedom and resources. There are many obstacles black people have to navigate on a daily basis that can be very distracting while working towards personal goals, professional goals, and sometimes even making it home alive. I think that people that don’t experience these types of obstacles on a daily basis because of their physical appearance / racial identity have the freedom to open and run tattoo shops with more ease and are put in positions of power to control who becomes employed. There is also a lack of visibility, representation and support for black people that have already been thriving in the tattoo industry for years. They need to be celebrated with the same enthusiasm as their European American colleagues. I truly believe that once that happens, more aspiring tattoo artists of color will see people that represent what their professional trajectory could look like.

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No boobies were harmed in the documentation of this tattoo…so don’t mf flag it!!!

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Dec 24, 2019 at 3:42pm PST

Another point you mentioned was artists desaturating their client’s photos to appear whiter. But I’ve noticed that the majority of your tattoos are on people of color. Why is it that other artists are primarily highlighting tattoos on pale skin and why do you go against that norm?

I think it could be a combination of things. Maybe they think their work looks better on a lighter surface, people aren’t acknowledging the racism that exists within that decision. Maybe people are also aiming for a specific clientele, which is also a racist preference. They might not think [their work] looks good on their darker skinned clients because they don’t know how to properly photograph people with melanated skin. Or they might not know how to tattoo people with melanated skin.

Also, depending on which area of the country you live in there might be a lack of black and brown people. Which in some ways isn’t necessarily their fault but also why would you want to live in a place like that? Who knows.

As for my IG, I post photos of the people I tattoo, and my clientele are just very diverse. I tattoo in Brooklyn, so that is one factor, but also people have traveled from different cities and countries even to get tattoos from me and I think it is because of the range in my portfolio. Diversity conveys trust.

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Come and show me yo healed ones . . #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #blindcontour #blindcontourtattoo

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Oct 3, 2019 at 6:20am PDT

Many tattoo artists, both in private and public conversations, have made statements that black skin is more difficult to tattoo or their styles/ approaches to tattooing won’t work. What do you think about that?

When people say it’s more difficult to tattoo black skin, it’s basically them admitting they prefer to work on white and pale skinned clients. Every physical body is different and every person’s type of skin is different. Your approach to tattooing shouldn’t be one size fits all. As a tattoo artist it is your responsibility to figure out what will work best for your client with style flexibility. If your style of tattooing prioritizes white skin you should question what your intentions are in making that type of decision and figure out what you can do to increase accessibility no matter the physical appearance.

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I got to do this variation of the log cabin pattern used in freedom quilts on @justalilcece Working on this tattoo in particular gave me a lot of new ideas about the body, ways it’s inhabited, ways we carry trauma and experiences of those that have come before us and what that may look like visually in terms of illustration. In rendering this I realized the center as a viewing window to the outside to those that remain with us. I’d like to explore this concept further with someone, if you are interested please comment below and I’ll reach out. ❤️D #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #freedomquilt

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Aug 7, 2019 at 6:44am PDT

In your work, you encourage black people to be tattooed by black artists. Why is that important to you?

I think it’s important to invest in black business in general. People should get tattooed by everyone but it’s also important for black people to get the experience of getting tattooed by another black person. For me, a lot of my clients say, “This is the most gentle tattoo that I’ve ever had,” or “I appreciate you asking me if I’m okay.” I make it a point to give my clients a lot of care. Sometimes we have conversations about tattoo shops they’ve visited in the past, where they’ve said “I remember the [artist] wasn’t talking to me” or “ the tattoo felt unnecessarily violent.” They’ve also mentioned inappropriate comments that were made, or how they felt unseen or uncomfortable in the waiting room. I’m not saying that people should only get tattooed by people of color, but I do think that it can be a different type of experience. You should know who you like to work with and who makes you feel the most comfortable.

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BELOVED . . @fucknia #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #blackexcellence #beloved #tonimorrison

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Jul 30, 2019 at 6:26pm PDT

Aside from yourself, which other black artists should our readers pay attention to?

Anderson Luna, André Malcolm, Wes Holland, Sophie C’est La Vie, Jay Baby, Chuck Jones, Oba Jackson, Debbie Snax, Jay Watkins, the list goes on and on.

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I got to do my black panther black panther next to this “soft” text tattoo from a few weeks ago. I really enjoy the juxtaposition of these two tattoos of hard and soft, aggressive and gentle, submission and dominance. Thanks for being apart of #theblackpantherproject @ginnie_ginnie ❤️ . . #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #blackpantherpartyforselfdefense

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Oct 19, 2019 at 6:48am PDT

You gained a lot of recognition for your Black Panther Project and now you’re doing other tattoo projects to celebrate black heritage. Take us through some of the flash you’ve created.

Some of the newer images include braided hair and protective symbols. When you think about the concept of being protective, you think of armor and shields. I’ve incorporated protective braiding styles with Adinkra, which are West African symbols. Recently, I’ve started doing some sacred geometry shapes with braided hair. I’ve been working on those because they’re very meditative for me personally and people that follow me have been really identifying with them. It offers an element of protection with imagery that directly reflects their identity and culture.

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Protective style Sankofa for @sownbrooklyn ❤️ . . . #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #protectivestyles #adinkra #adinkratattoo

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:00am PST

What else are you working on?

I’m working on a project called “MAD PAIN.” It’s a tattoo podcast that focuses on tattoo artists sharing their personal history, histories that we haven’t typically heard from other tattoo podcasts thus far. I’m also interviewing some of my clients that lead really extraordinary lives. The client version of the podcast is called “MAD PAIN Presents: Supreme Clientele.” I’m hoping to expand on that project and maybe start a video series in addition to that.

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@delana_writes came through and got a braid dagger before her big move!!! Also not to be missed the iconic thankblackwomen t-shirt from @philaprint . . . #fleshandfluid #blackwomantattooartist #gettattooedbyblackwomen #protectivestyles

A post shared by doreen garner (@flesh_and_fluid) on Dec 13, 2019 at 8:21am PST

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